Nine Pareto-optimal tiers of the abliterated model, each with an MTP head grafted in from the original Ornith-1.5 (the abliterated source ships none).
Measured on wikitext-2-raw, 16 chunks x 2048 ctx, against two references, so quantization damage and abliteration damage can be told apart.
| Mean KLD (abliterated BF16 vs original BF16) | 0.0151 |
| same top-1 token | 95.04% |
For scale, the best quantization in this ladder costs ~0.022 KLD. Abliteration is a smaller perturbation than Q6_K quantization.
| tier | size | mean KLD | 99% KLD | 99.9% KLD | PPL ratio | same top-1 | active bpw | file bpw | overall |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
MTP-UD-Q6_K |
30.21 GB | 0.0222 | 0.226 | 0.695 | 0.9960 | 94.05% | 8.063 | 6.804 | 96.7 |
MTP-UD-Q5_K_S |
25.84 GB | 0.0261 | 0.269 | 0.899 | 0.9871 | 93.51% | 7.693 | 5.820 | 96.3 |
TIEL_Calibrated-25G-ICE |
24.85 GB | 0.0276 | 0.269 | 1.061 | 0.9847 | 93.33% | 7.686 | 5.597 | 96.1 |
MTP-25G-ICE |
24.85 GB | 7.686 | 5.597 | ||||||
TIEL_Calibrated-23G-ICE |
22.84 GB | 0.0321 | 0.326 | 1.173 | 0.9907 | 92.89% | 7.523 | 5.143 | 95.7 |
MTP-23G-ICE |
22.84 GB | 7.523 | 5.143 | ||||||
TIEL_Calibrated-21G-ICE |
20.85 GB | 0.0392 | 0.421 | 1.606 | 0.9997 | 92.27% | 7.357 | 4.695 | 95.0 |
MTP-21G-ICE |
20.85 GB | 7.357 | 4.695 | ||||||
TIEL_Calibrated-19G-ICE |
18.82 GB | 0.0576 | 0.602 | 2.123 | 1.0015 | 90.42% | 7.192 | 4.240 | 93.3 |
MTP-19G-ICE |
18.82 GB | 7.192 | 4.240 | ||||||
MTP-UD-IQ4_XS |
18.68 GB | 0.0706 | 0.695 | 2.645 | 1.0502 | 89.40% | 6.762 | 4.209 | 92.2 |
MTP-APEX-I-Compact-v2D-lite |
17.57 GB | 0.0925 | 0.893 | 3.141 | 1.0169 | 87.97% | 5.228 | 3.956 | 90.5 |
MTP-APEX-I-Mini-v2D-lite |
14.37 GB | 0.2546 | 2.410 | 5.578 | 1.2129 | 80.70% | 4.180 | 3.208 | 80.0 |
The four
ICErows were rebuilt on 2026-08-24 and the struck-through values are what they replaced. The new figures are measured at 64 chunks, the rest of the table at 16; a higher chunk count tightens the error bar without moving the mean. What changed, why, and the full measurement set:MEASUREMENTS-ICE-rebuild.md.
The four
TIEL_Calibratedrows were added on 2026-08-30. Identical builds to theirMTP-*-ICEcounterparts — same abliterated trunk, same norm-fixed MTPv2 head, same ICE-base recipes, same byte budgets — but built with the importance matrix and embedded chat template from peculiar-ragdoll/Tiel-Coder-35B-A3B-GGUF, with credit to that repo for both. Its imatrix is 3000 x 512 = 1,536,000 tokens against the 573 x 512 = 293,376 behind the others. Also measured at 64 chunks.
Sorted best -> worst by overall (BF16 = 100), the same composite used on the
non-abliterated card:
0.70/(1+meanKLD) + 0.30*sameTop1. All KLD columns are measured
against the abliterated BF16, i.e. they isolate what the quantization costs.
Read the tail columns with care.
99.9% KLDis the ~33rd-worst token out of 32,768 — an extreme order statistic with large sampling variance, so it inverts between adjacent tiers without that meaning anything.99% KLDrests on ~328 tokens and orders all nine tiers monotonically;mean KLDuses all 32,768 and separates the closest pair by 4.3 sigma. Rank on mean KLD; treat the tail columns as shape, not order.
Both columns are the original 16-chunk measurements, so the delta isolates
abliteration. The four ICE tiers have since been rebuilt; their current numbers
are in the tier table above and in
MEASUREMENTS-ICE-rebuild.md.
| tier | KLD abl |
KLD clean |
Δ | top-1 abl |
top-1 clean |
Δ | PPL ratio abl |
PPL ratio clean |
Δ |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
MTP-UD-Q6_K |
0.0222 | 0.0221 | +0.6% | 94.05% | 93.85% | +0.20 pp | 0.9960 | 0.9957 | +0.0003 |
MTP-UD-Q5_K_S |
0.0261 | 0.0272 | -4.2% | 93.51% | 93.51% | +0.01 pp | 0.9871 | 0.9862 | +0.0009 |
MTP-25G-ICE |
0.0293 | 0.0303 | -3.4% | 93.44% | 93.16% | +0.28 pp | 0.9856 | 0.9814 | +0.0042 |
MTP-23G-ICE |
0.0345 | 0.0361 | -4.4% | 92.39% | 92.65% | -0.26 pp | 0.9902 | 0.9885 | +0.0018 |
MTP-21G-ICE |
0.0398 | 0.0412 | -3.4% | 92.06% | 92.03% | +0.03 pp | 0.9943 | 0.9924 | +0.0019 |
MTP-19G-ICE |
0.0612 | 0.0608 | +0.5% | 90.02% | 90.32% | -0.30 pp | 1.0025 | 1.0030 | -0.0005 |
MTP-UD-IQ4_XS |
0.0706 | 0.0723 | -2.4% | 89.40% | 89.46% | -0.06 pp | 1.0502 | 1.0526 | -0.0024 |
MTP-APEX-I-Compact-v2D-lite |
0.0925 | 0.0954 | -3.0% | 87.97% | 87.83% | +0.14 pp | 1.0169 | 1.0101 | +0.0068 |
MTP-APEX-I-Mini-v2D-lite |
0.2546 | 0.2608 | -2.4% | 80.70% | 80.49% | +0.21 pp | 1.2129 | 1.2281 | -0.0151 |
Δ is near zero or slightly negative across the ladder: abliteration does not make
this model harder to quantize, and in the mid-range it is marginally easier —
plausibly because projecting a direction out of ffn_down narrows its dynamic range.
Two further results, measured against the original BF16 as well (full numbers in
KLD_RESULTS.txt):
| family | what it is |
|---|---|
| UD-* | Unsloth Dynamic 2.0 maps, replayed 1:1. Pins attention, the shared expert and token_embd at Q8_0 at every size and moves only the routed experts. |
| ICE-* | Bits allocated by how far a quantization error travels, not by activation magnitude. Named by target size. |
| APEX-I-*-v2D-lite | mudler's APEX maps plus one extra step on attn_k/attn_v in the ten full-attention blocks and on the output head. |
Rule of thumb: Q6_K / Q5_K_S near-lossless, 25G/23G-ICE the quality sweet spot, 21G/19G-ICE the best small tiers, Compact/Mini only if you are tight on VRAM — Mini drops sharply.
ICE allocates bits by error travel distance: how far a quantization error propagates before it reaches the output. Tensors writing straight into the residual stream, the always-on dense path, and the router are protected; the routed expert stack — 93% of the parameters but only 8-of-256 active per token — is left uniform. Routers stay F32, and the draft block is un-pinned so its experts follow the tier.
On the non-abliterated ladder, measured on this model and this harness, ICE lands ahead at matched size:
| comparison | result |
|---|---|
| 23G-ICE vs UD-Q4_K_XL (same size) | -5.0% KLD |
| 23G-ICE vs APEX-I-Quality | -13.0% KLD and 0.61 GB smaller |
| 25G-ICE vs APEX-I-Balanced | -12.2% KLD and 1.15 GB smaller |
UD-Q4_K_XL,APEX-I-Quality-v2D-lite and APEX-I-Balanced-v2D-lite are each already covered by
an ICE tier that is both smaller and closer to BF16, so rebuilding them would add size
without adding a quality point. Full derivation, the refuted ffn_down rule
and the measured convexity bound are in the
original Ornith-1.5 card.
The 9-Tier Standard
From this release onward these nine recipes are the standard ladder:
UD-Q6_K·UD-Q5_K_S·25G-ICE·23G-ICE·21G-ICE·19G-ICE·UD-IQ4_XS·APEX-I-Compact-v2D-lite·APEX-I-Mini-v2D-liteThey are the measured Pareto frontier of a 12-tier sweep on this architecture: every dropped tier is beaten on both size and KLD by one that ships. Reference measurements and methodology: Ornith-1.5-35B-MTP-UD-APEX-GGUF.
PocketAiHub/Ornith-1.5-35B-A3B-Abliterated-GGUF is faithful at the tensor level —
every tensor except ffn_down is byte-identical to ornith-ai's BF16. Abliteration is
confined to ffn_down (both routed and shared experts), layers 15-39, at
~1.6-1.9e-02 L1-relative. Routers, attention, ffn_gate, ffn_up and layers 0-14
are untouched.
Three things were repaired while grafting:
blk.40.* tensors from ornith-ai's BF16;
block_count 40 -> 41, nextn_predict_layers added.tokenizer.ggml.add_bos_token restored to False — the source omits the key
entirely, so llama.cpp falls back to its own default and tokenises differently
from the original. Left unfixed this also invalidates any KLD against the original.tokenizer.chat_template restored — the source ships a 7536-byte copy with
the multi-system-message merge block removed; the original is 7828 bytes.bartowski's Ornith-1.5-35B-A3B-imatrix.gguf, reused unmodified. Justified by
measurement, not assumption: the routers are byte-identical between the original
and the abliterated model, so the same experts fire and the per-channel statistics
still apply.
All nine tensor maps were confirmed byte-exact against the corresponding shipped non-abliterated tier before this build, so the two ladders are directly comparable:
unsloth/Ornith-1.0-35B-GGUF (Unsloth Dynamic 2.0).attn_k/attn_v on the ten
full-attention blocks and the output head each raised one step.Every tier carries the head, pinned Q8_0 (F16 attn_k/attn_v on the ICE tiers).
It is grafted from the original model, so the draft head is not abliterated while
the trunk is — worth knowing if you rely on the refusal behaviour under drafting:
the head only proposes, the abliterated trunk verifies, so accepted tokens are always
the trunk's.
Measured draft acceptance: 96.77% (390/403) on 23G-ICE, --spec-type draft-mtp, text-only.
| prompt set | acceptance |
|---|---|
code-novel |
98.45% |
structured |
98.29% |
copy-edit |
97.30% |
prose-novel |
91.57% |
Raw run in gate_spec_bench.json. Acceptance depends on the prompt mix — compare only against numbers taken on the same harness.
llama-server -m Ornith-1.5-35B-A3B-Abliterated-MTPv2-21G-ICE.gguf \
--mmproj mmproj-Ornith-1.5-35B-A3B-Abliterated-F16.gguf \
-c 8192 -fa on --jinja \
--spec-type draft-mtp --spec-draft-n-max 1 --spec-draft-n-min 0 --spec-draft-p-min 0.75
ornith-ai uploaded a newly trained native MTP head to the official
Ornith-1.5-35B-A3B repo, so this
repo is updated with it.
The nine MTPv2-* files are the same nine recipes as the previous ladder — same
abliterated trunk, same imatrix, same per-tensor rule files, same pinned llama.cpp build.
Only blk.40 is re-grafted. Every tensor outside blk.40, and the whole metadata block,
is byte-identical to its MTPv1/ counterpart — checked tensor by tensor before anything
was uploaded.
The four ICE tiers were later rebuilt again, on 2026-08-24, with a revised expert
placement and a corrected blk.40 norm conversion. Their rows in the tier table show
both the old and the new numbers.
What actually changed. The head in the original checkpoint had initializer-like weights; the replacement is trained. Read straight off the two published files:
blk.40 tensor |
MTPv1 | MTPv2 |
|---|---|---|
nextn.shared_head_norm.weight |
1.02281 ± 0.00017 | 2.92531 ± 0.29643 |
attn_norm.weight |
1.00006 ± 0.00302 | 0.90492 ± 0.15616 |
nextn.hnorm.weight |
1.01571 ± 0.00558 | 0.49370 ± 0.09479 |
attn_q_norm.weight |
1.00390 ± 0.00680 | 1.76704 ± 0.33864 |
The previous ladder is unchanged and still here, under MTPv1/ — same files, same
digests, nothing deleted.
The new head is also published on its own, for use as a --model-draft sidecar instead
of an embedded head:
| file | size |
|---|---|
mtp-Ornith-1.5-35B-A3B-Abliterated-MTPv2-BF16.gguf |
3.74 GB |
mtp-Ornith-1.5-35B-A3B-Abliterated-MTPv2-Q8_0.gguf |
1.99 GB |
mtp-Ornith-1.5-35B-A3B-Abliterated-MTPv2-Q4_K_M.gguf |
1.26 GB |
The BF16 one is a straight extraction from the same grafted master the ladder was
quantized from, so its head is bit-identical to the head inside the MTPv2-* files.
Not re-hosted — use the projector from the source repo:
mmproj-Ornith-1.5-35B-A3B-Abliterated-F16.gguf
(0.90 GB). Without it the model is blind. Note --mmproj force-disables ctx_shift
and cache_reuse.
sha256sums-MTPv2.txt and MANIFEST-MTPv2.txt for the current ladder,
MEASUREMENTS-ICE-rebuild.md for the 2026-08-24 ICE rebuild, and the MTPv1
originals under MTPv1/ (KLD_RESULTS.txt, gate_spec_bench.json,
sha256sums.txt, MANIFEST.txt).
The BF16 masters are not re-hosted: the abliterated source is at PocketAiHub and the original at ornith-ai.
Credit: PocketAiHub for the abliteration, bartowski for the imatrix and for publishing its corpus, mudler for the APEX reference maps, Unsloth for the UD 2.0 maps, Shisa-AI for Final 12K KL distill MTP Head (ShisaMTP variants), Jzinno for Dflash2 sidecar, peculiar-ragdoll for Tiel iMatrix Calibration and Sharp Chat Template.
ornith-ai/Ornith-1.5-35B-A3B